Mining
Gathering Pre-launch Updated
18 recipes, 5 new in Forever (ForeverDB, game build 1.60.1.70938)
Cheatsheet
- Pick it for
- gold with no money needed to start (Wowhead); no racial affects it, and Druids, Hunters and Warlocks escape mobs most easily.
- Pairs with
- Blacksmithing or Engineering, which use bars and stone; Herbalism for a two-gatherer character.
- Levelling route
- by vein: 1–65 Copper · 65–125 Tin, Silver · 125–175 Iron, Gold · 175–245 Mithril, Truesilver · 245–300 Thorium; wow-professions.com couldn't test past 125. Smelting bought ore reaches about 140, then gold to 185 (Wowhead); wow-professions.com calls iron and gold optional.
- Money makers
- Wowhead: sell whatever you don't craft with. Icy Veins: gems and Scarce reagents only miners gather. A vendor pays 5 copper for Copper Ore (ForeverDB). Compare bar proceeds after selling costs with ore prices before smelting to sell.
- Camp items
- Lodestone (20; melee Attack Power, doesn't stack with Blessing of Might) · Rock Garden (140; spawns a common node over time) · Molten Foundry (300; the only known station for Heavy Thorium Bars).
- Trainers and ranks
- train at 50 · 125 · 200 skill (Icy Veins). Character level disputed: none · 10 · 25 (Icy Veins' overview) or 10 · 20 · 35 (ForeverDB, from Classic). Starting-zone Junior Mining Trainers teach only to 75, without smelting.
- Watch out
- guides disagree on which veins give Pyrite, Bauxite and Pitchblende. Fast-respawn caves refill with mobs too. One skill point per node, however many swings. Starter nodes give points only to 20. Blizzard's camping post omits the Lodestone, but the client has it.
Best estimated margins
| Recipe | Skill | Estimated margin |
|---|---|---|
| Smelt Dark Iron | 0 | 5g 14s 8c ForeverDB |
| Smelt Azerothium | 0 | 1g 5s 27c ForeverDB |
| Smelt Thorium | 250 | 18s 22c ForeverDB |
| Rock Garden | 140 | 5s 7c our scan |
| Smelt Steel | 165 | 1s 21c ForeverDB |
| Smelt Mithril | 175 | 90c our scan |
Asking prices, before selling and training costs; not proof of demand. All Mining margins.
Camp items
| Item | Skill | Effect |
|---|---|---|
| Lodestone | 20 | Erects a lodestone that allows you and others sitting nearby to gain 12 (below level 12), 20 (levels 12–21), 32 (levels 22–31), 49 (levels 32–41), 67 (levels 42–51) or 90 (level 52+) increased melee Attack Power, mutually exclusive with Blessing of Might. |
| Rock Garden | 140 | Places a Rock Garden that spawns a common mining node over time, and provides all the benefits of a Lodestone. |
| Molten Foundry | 300 | Places a Molten Foundry usable for recipes that require it, and provides all the benefits of a Lodestone. |
In depth
What changed in Forever
wow-professions.com lists the quality-of-life changes:
- Ores stack to 20 instead of 10.
- Every starting zone has a Junior Mining Trainer. They teach only up to 75, and no smelting.
- Starting areas have Poor Copper Veins, and Teldrassil has Chunks of Amber, so Night Elves can mine at home too. Both give Copper Ore, but the small nodes give skill points only up to 20.
You can also learn Apprentice Mining by picking Mining for Dummies as the reward from an early starting-zone quest (Wowhead).
New materials:
- Azerothium Bar: smelted at skill 275 from Pitchblende and Coal, at an ordinary forge.
- Heavy Thorium Bar: smelted at skill 300 from Heavy Thorium Ore. It needs a Molten Foundry, and wow-professions.com knows of no Foundry except the camp item. The ore comes from Heavy Thorium Veins in Mount Hyjal.
- Legionite Bar: an Alchemy transmute of Heavy Thorium Bars. Icy Veins adds Fel Crystals to the recipe.
- Scarce materials: Pyrite, Bauxite and Pitchblende drop alongside ore. Icy Veins says Pyrite becomes Sulfuric Acid in Alchemy and Bauxite goes into new recipes, Enchanting among them. The new bars mostly feed Blacksmithing, with a few Engineering recipes (wow-professions.com).
The sources don't agree on which veins give which Scarce material:
| Material | wow-professions.com | Wowhead |
|---|---|---|
| Pyrite | Copper, Tin and Iron | Copper, Tin, Silver and Iron |
| Bauxite | Mithril | Gold and Mithril |
| Pitchblende | Thorium | Probably Truesilver and higher (unconfirmed) |
Two pieces of gear also help. Smelting Pants make the early smelts 25% faster. The Rockslicer lets anyone, Miner or not, mine low-level veins for 30 charges (Wowhead).
Levelling, in brief
There are two ways to level, and most guides mix them.
Smelting. Buy ore and smelt it at a forge. Wowhead says smelting gives skill up to 185: copper, tin, bronze, silver and iron take you to about 140. Nothing smelts for points from 140 to 155, and gold then carries you to 185. wow-professions.com is more cautious. It smelts copper, tin and bronze to about 105, adds silver to 120 if prices allow, and treats iron (to about 135) and gold (155–175) as optional. This route costs gold but saves time. Bars sometimes sell for about as much as the ore did.
Mining. The guides agree on the skill each vein needs; they differ on zones.
| Skill | New veins | Where guides send you |
|---|---|---|
| 1–65 | Copper | Any starting zone |
| 65–125 | Tin (65), Silver (75) | Wowhead: Ashenvale, Redridge, The Barrens, Thousand Needles. wow-professions.com prefers caves: the Wetlands for Alliance, Silverpine Forest or Hillsbrad for Horde |
| 125–175 | Iron (125), Gold (155) | Arathi Highlands, Desolace, Stranglethorn Vale, Thousand Needles |
| 175–245 | Mithril (175), Truesilver (230) | The Hinterlands, Tanaris, Azshara |
| 245–300 | Small Thorium (245), Rich Thorium (275) | Un'Goro, Felwood, the Blasted Lands, then Eastern Plaguelands, Winterspring, Burning Steppes |
At the beta's level cap, wow-professions.com couldn't fully test its routes past skill 125. Its higher routes are Classic's, with the note that ore respawns faster in Forever, and in caves so do the mobs. Wowhead says you get at most one skill point from a node however many swings it takes. Icy Veins adds that a group of miners can each take a swing at the same node for a point.
Ranks
Icy Veins gives the skill needed to train each rank: 50 for Journeyman, 125 for Expert, 200 for Artisan. The character level is disputed, as for every gathering profession. Icy Veins' overview gives gathering ranks lower levels (none, 10, 25) than ForeverDB's levelling page (10, 20, 35, from Classic).
Making money
- Wowhead calls Mining an excellent source of gold that needs no money to start. Sell whatever you don't craft with.
- Icy Veins points to gems and the Scarce reagents, which only miners gather.
- ForeverDB shows why the Auction House matters: a vendor pays 5 copper for Copper Ore and 2 copper for Rough Stone.
- Ore and bars also fill Waylaid Crates, which you hand in at your faction's trade camp for Merchant's Favor (wow-professions.com).
- Mining has no Legacy challenges, but Bountiful Harvest raises Scarce finds (Wowhead).
Trainers and recipes
Ranks: Apprentice to 75 · Journeyman to 150 · Expert to 225 · Artisan to 300.
Trainers
| Trainer | Faction | Where | Trains to |
|---|---|---|---|
| Messana Crestwind Miner | Both | Zephras Isle (45, 44) Seen in Forever | |
| Krunn Miner | Horde | Durotar (52, 41) Seen in Forever | 250 |
| Makaru Mining Trainer | Horde | Orgrimmar (73, 27) Seen in Forever | 250 |
| Johan Focht Miner | Horde | Silverpine Forest (43, 41) Seen in Forever | 250 |
| Brek Stonehoof Mining Trainer | Horde | Thunder Bluff (35, 58) Seen in Forever | 250 |
| Brom Killian Mining Trainer | Horde | Undercity (56, 37) Seen in Forever | 250 |
| Yarr Hammerstone Mining Trainer | Alliance | Dun Morogh (50, 50) Seen in Forever | 250 |
| Matt Johnson Mining Trainer | Alliance | Duskwood (74, 50) Seen in Forever | 250 |
| Geofram Bouldertoe Mining Trainer | Alliance | Ironforge (50, 26) Seen in Forever | 250 |
| Gelman Stonehand Mining Trainer | Alliance | Stormwind City (59, 38) Seen in Forever | 250 |
| Pikkle Miner | Both | Tanaris (51, 28) Classic data | 250 |
| Kurdram Stonehammer Mining Trainer | Alliance | Darkshore (38, 41) Classic data | 250 |
| Dank Drizzlecut Mining Trainer | Alliance | Dun Morogh (69, 56) Classic data | 250 |
| Brock Stoneseeker Mining Trainer | Alliance | Loch Modan (37, 48) Classic data | 250 |
Recipes you buy
| Recipe | Skill | Sold by |
|---|---|---|
| Rock Garden New in Forever | 140 | Happy Camper, Durotar (45, 13) Seen in Forever 15s 0c |
Data from ForeverDB.net, game build 1.60.1.70938. Places marked "Classic data" come from Classic and haven't been confirmed in Forever yet.
Where to gather
Best zones by skill
| Skill | Zones |
|---|---|
| 1–66 | Westfall, Redridge Mountains, Loch Modan |
| 66–126 | Wetlands, Redridge Mountains, Loch Modan |
| 126–181 | Alterac Mountains, Wetlands, Arathi Highlands |
| 181–236 | Badlands, Alterac Mountains, Arathi Highlands |
| 236–300 | Searing Gorge, Badlands, Alterac Mountains |
Nodes
| Node | Skill | Busiest zones | Spots seen in Forever |
|---|---|---|---|
| Copper Vein | 1 | Westfall, Redridge Mountains, Loch Modan | 88 |
| Tin Vein | 65 | Wetlands, Redridge Mountains, Loch Modan | 48 |
| Silver Vein | 75 | Alterac Mountains, Arathi Highlands, Loch Modan | 20 |
| Iron Deposit | 125 | Alterac Mountains, Arathi Highlands, Duskwood | 7 |
| Gold Vein | 155 | Alterac Mountains, Arathi Highlands, Badlands | 0 |
| Mithril Deposit | 175 | Badlands, Azshara, Tanaris | 0 |
| Dark Iron Deposit | 230 | Searing Gorge | 0 |
| Truesilver Deposit | 230 | Badlands, Alterac Mountains, The Hinterlands | 0 |
| Small Thorium Vein | 245 | Winterspring, Swamp of Sorrows, Felwood | 0 |
| Rich Thorium Vein | 275 | Azshara, Winterspring | 0 |
The skill each node needs comes from the Forever client; where nodes spawn is Classic data (CMaNGOS) until players' addons record them in Forever (spotsSeenInForever).
Data from ForeverDB.net, game build 1.60.1.70938. Places marked "Classic data" come from Classic and haven't been confirmed in Forever yet.
Sources
Read more
- Wowhead: Mining Profession Overview in Forever: smelting route to 185, node brackets to 225, vein table, new bars
- Icy Veins: Mining Guide: skill boosts, Scarce materials and what uses them
- wow-professions.com: Mining levelling guide: mapped farming routes, cave spots, the smelting shortcut
- wow-professions.com: New ores, bars and camp items: every change from Classic in one list
- ForeverDB: Mining and its levelling guide: smelting recipes from the beta client, a route on Classic spawn data
- ForeverDB: Blizzard explains the Camping system: the missing Lodestone, checked against the client
- ForeverDB: Making money and the Auction House: vendor prices and fees
- Warcraft Tavern: Professions Overview: reagent bags, including mining bags that hold your pick
Guides and tools
- ForeverDB: Mining Every recipe, trainers, where to learn
- Wowhead: Mining levelling guide
- Icy Veins: professions overview
- ForeverDB: best profession pairs
Sources: Wowhead, Icy Veins, ForeverDB, wow-professions.com, Warcraft Tavern
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