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Fishing

Secondary Pre-launch Updated

Cheatsheet

Pick it for
anyone; it's secondary and needs no materials. Wowhead picks out Shamans (Far Sight, Water Walking) and Hunters (raw fish feeds pets).
Pairs with
Cooking, so one catch levels both; Alchemists also want oil fish.
Levelling route
skill comes per catch, not faster in harder zones (Wowhead, Icy Veins): 1–75 any starting zone, Shiny Bauble to about 25 · 75–150 a capital city, no lure · 150–225 Dustwallow or Stranglethorn, with lures · 225–300 Tanaris (Wowhead) or Feralas, Felwood and others (wow-professions.com).
Money makers
Icy Veins names oil fish (Oily Blackmouth, Firefin Snapper, Stonescale Eel) and buff-food fish (Sunscale Salmon, Mightfish, Winter Squid). Judge gold per hour after lures, travel and selling costs; not every catch has a buyer.
Camp items
Fish Bowl (20; 8% all stats, doesn't stack with Blessing of Kings) · Fishing Rack (140; uncommon fish for an hour, plus lures; blueprint from Gelihast, Blackfathom Deeps) · Fishing Hut (300; rare fish; blueprint source unknown).
Trainers and ranks
Expert from a book sold by Old Man Heming in Booty Bay · Artisan from the quest Nat Pagle, Angler Extreme (level 35, Fishing 225). Journeyman and Expert need level 10 and 20 (Icy Veins, wow-professions.com) or 1 (ForeverDB, beta client).
Watch out
Fishing itself barely changed. The Stranglethorn tournament now has 50 winners (Sundays 2–4 p.m. server time, per Icy Veins), but treat its timing and rewards as unconfirmed until checked live. Which fish the Rack and Hut unlock isn't listed yet.

Best estimated margins

RecipeSkillEstimated margin
Fish Bowl04c our scan

Asking prices, before selling and training costs; not proof of demand. All Fishing margins.

Camp items

ItemSkillEffect
Fish Bowl20Places a small fish bowl that allows you and others sitting nearby to gain 8% increased stats, mutually exclusive with Blessing of Kings.
Fishing Rack140Places a Fishing Rack that grants the ability to catch uncommon fish for 1 hour, provides Fishing Skill lures, and provides all of the benefits of a Fish Bowl.
Fishing Hut300Places a Fishing Hut that grants the ability to catch rare fish for 1 hour, provides Fishing Skill lures, and provides all of the benefits of a Fish Bowl.

In depth

What changed in Forever

Wowhead says Fishing itself barely changed. What changed is around it:

  • Many fish recipes in Cooking were buffed or added, and most cooked food now grants extra experience from kills.
  • Fishing makes its own camp items. The Rack blueprint drops from Gelihast in Blackfathom Deeps (Wowhead); where the Hut's blueprint drops is unknown. The Hut uses Seasonal Fish Steaks, prepared from Raw Winter Squid or Raw Summer Bass (Icy Veins).
  • Some Classic fish dishes now raise Fishing skill for 15 minutes, from Loch Frenzy Delight (+3, level 5) up to Filet of Redgill and Spinefin Halibut (+18).
  • The Stranglethorn Fishing Extravaganza now has 50 winners instead of one. Every winner gets an Arcanite Fishing Pole and an Extravagant Extravaganza Coin. The coin buys one of several rewards, such as the Hook of the Master Angler, which turns you into a fish while swimming. Icy Veins says the tournament runs every Sunday, 2 to 4 p.m. server time, and that 20 Speckled Tastyfish buy a Message in a Bottle, which can hold rare endgame items.
  • ForeverDB notes a Find Fish ability that shows fishing pools on the minimap.
  • Icy Veins adds Whimsyfin, caught east of Lake Everstill in Redridge, for the new Savory Whimsyfin Delight.

How skill works. Wowhead and Icy Veins agree that you gain Fishing skill per catch, and a harder zone doesn't give points faster. Fish where you can land fish reliably and move only for the catch you want. Your effective skill rises with:

  • Poles: a Strong Fishing Pole from vendors, the Big Iron Fishing Pole from shellfish traps off Desolace, a Horde-only pole from a Hinterlands quest, and the Arcanite Fishing Pole.
  • Lures: Shiny Bauble up to Aquadynamic Fish Attractor.
  • Gear: a hat, boots and a line from the tournament's rare fish, plus a glove enchant.
  • Food: the dishes above.

The Luremaster Legacy perk gives a chance to catch an extra fish while a lure is active.

Levelling, in brief

The guides largely agree on the route.

SkillWhere to fishNotes
1–75Any starting zoneUse a Shiny Bauble until about 25
75–150A capital cityWowhead says you won't need a lure here
150–225Dustwallow Marsh or Stranglethorn ValeExpert comes from a book, Expert Fishing – The Bass and You, sold by Old Man Heming in Booty Bay. Wowhead suggests Dustwallow for Alliance and Stranglethorn for Horde; use lures until 225
225–300Tanaris (Wowhead) or Feralas, Felwood, The Hinterlands, Un'Goro and Western Plaguelands (wow-professions.com)Artisan first, and keep using lures

Artisan comes from the quest Nat Pagle, Angler Extreme, from Nat Pagle in Dustwallow Marsh. It needs level 35 and Fishing 225, and asks for four quest-only fish from Feralas, Swamp of Sorrows, Desolace and Stranglethorn (wow-professions.com, Wowhead).

Which catches are worth keeping

  • Cost: Fishing has low material costs, but catching and selling take time. Judge gold per hour after lures, travel and selling costs; not every catch has a buyer.
  • Oil fish: Icy Veins lists Oily Blackmouth, Firefin Snapper and Stonescale Eel, which Alchemists turn into Blackmouth, Fire and Stonescale Oil.
  • Buff-food fish: Raw Sunscale Salmon and Large Raw Mightfish (Attack Power), Raw Winter Squid and Raw Summer Bass (crit), Raw Whitescale Salmon and Darkclaw Lobster (spell damage), and Raw Plated Armorfish (armour).
  • Rack and Hut fish: the uncommon and rare catches these unlock haven't been listed yet.

Where guides disagree

  • Rank levels: Icy Veins and wow-professions.com say Journeyman needs level 10 and the Expert book level 20. ForeverDB found that the Journeyman and Expert rank spells carry level 1 in the beta client.
  • Late zones: they suggest different zones for 225–300, though both say skill gains don't depend on the zone.

Trainers and recipes

Ranks: Apprentice to 75 · Journeyman to 150 · Expert to 225 · Artisan to 300.

Trainers

TrainerFactionWhereTrains to
Baelann SwiftcurrentBothZephras Isle (63, 76) Seen in Forever
Fenn Fairweather FishermanBothZephras Isle (45, 48) Seen in Forever
Lau'Tiki FishermanHordeDurotar (53, 82) Seen in Forever50
Uthan Stillwater FishermanHordeMulgore (44, 64) Seen in Forever50
Lumak Fishing TrainerHordeOrgrimmar (70, 30) Seen in Forever50
Kah Mistrunner Fishing TrainerHordeThunder Bluff (56, 47) Seen in Forever50
Armand Cromwell Fishing TrainerHordeUndercity (81, 31) Seen in Forever50
Astaia Fishing TrainerAllianceDarnassus (48, 57) Seen in Forever50
Paxton Ganter FishermanAllianceDun Morogh (36, 40) Seen in Forever50
Lee Brown FishermanAllianceElwynn Forest (48, 62) Seen in Forever50
Grimnur Stonebrand Fishing TrainerAllianceIronforge (48, 7) Seen in Forever50
Warg Deepwater FishermanAllianceLoch Modan (41, 40) Seen in Forever50
Matthew Hooper Fishing TrainerAllianceRedridge Mountains (21, 51) Seen in Forever50
Arnold Leland Fishing TrainerAllianceStormwind City (55, 70) Seen in Forever50

Recipes you buy

RecipeSkillSold by
Fishing Rack New in Forever140Happy Camper, Durotar (45, 13) Seen in Forever 15s 0c

Data from ForeverDB.net, game build 1.60.1.70938. Places marked "Classic data" come from Classic and haven't been confirmed in Forever yet.

Where to gather

Best zones by skill

SkillZones

Fishing by zone

ZoneSkillMost caught
Dun Morogh-70Raw Brilliant Smallfish 58.8%, Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper 40%, Minor Healing Potion 0.4%
Durotar-70Raw Slitherskin Mackerel 98%, Battered Chest 2%
Elwynn Forest-70Raw Brilliant Smallfish 58.8%, Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper 40%, Minor Healing Potion 0.4%
Mulgore-70Raw Brilliant Smallfish 58.8%, Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper 40%, Minor Healing Potion 0.4%
Teldrassil-70Raw Brilliant Smallfish 58.8%, Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper 40%, Minor Healing Potion 0.4%
Tirisfal Glades-70Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper 30%, Sickly Looking Fish 15%, Minor Healing Potion 0.4%
Darkshore-20Raw Rainbow Fin Albacore 30%, Darkshore Grouper 30%, Raw Slitherskin Mackerel 18.5%
Darnassus-20Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper 49.95%, Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish 30%, Raw Brilliant Smallfish 18%
Ironforge-20Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper 49.95%, Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish 30%, Raw Brilliant Smallfish 18%
Loch Modan-20Raw Loch Frenzy 25%
Orgrimmar-20Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper 49.95%, Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish 30%, Raw Brilliant Smallfish 18%
Silverpine Forest-20Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper 30%, Sickly Looking Fish 15%, Minor Healing Potion 0.4%
Stormwind City-20Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper 49.95%, Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish 30%, Raw Brilliant Smallfish 18%
The Barrens-20Raw Rainbow Fin Albacore 50%, Raw Slitherskin Mackerel 33.5%, Oily Blackmouth 15%
Thunder Bluff-20Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper 49.95%, Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish 30%, Raw Brilliant Smallfish 18%
Undercity-20Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper 39.95%, Sickly Looking Fish 15%, Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish 15%
Westfall-20Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper 49.95%, Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish 30%, Raw Brilliant Smallfish 18%
Ashenvale55Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish 63.35%, Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper 35%, Healing Potion 0.5%
Duskwood55Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish 63.35%, Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper 35%, Healing Potion 0.5%
Hillsbrad Foothills55Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish 63.35%, Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper 35%, Healing Potion 0.5%
Redridge Mountains55Spotted Sunfish 100%, Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish 63.35%, Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper 35%
Stonetalon Mountains55Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish 63.35%, Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper 35%, Healing Potion 0.5%
Wetlands55Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish 63.35%, Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper 35%, Healing Potion 0.5%
Alterac Mountains130Raw Mithril Head Trout 58.4%, Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish 40%, Mana Potion 0.7%
Arathi Highlands130Raw Mithril Head Trout 58.4%, Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish 40%, Mana Potion 0.7%
Desolace130Raw Mithril Head Trout 58.4%, Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish 40%, Mana Potion 0.7%
Dustwallow Marsh130Raw Mithril Head Trout 58.4%, Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish 40%, Mana Potion 0.7%
Stranglethorn Vale130Raw Mithril Head Trout 58.4%, Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish 40%, Mana Potion 0.7%
Swamp of Sorrows130Raw Mithril Head Trout 58.4%, Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish 40%, Mana Potion 0.7%
Thousand Needles130Raw Mithril Head Trout 58.4%, Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish 40%, Mana Potion 0.7%
Azshara205Raw Redgill 35.4%, Raw Nightfin Snapper 18%, Raw Sunscale Salmon 18%
Felwood205Raw Redgill 35.4%, Raw Nightfin Snapper 18%, Raw Sunscale Salmon 18%
Feralas205Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish 40%, Greater Healing Potion 0.5%, Mana Potion 0.5%
Moonglade205Raw Redgill 35.4%, Raw Nightfin Snapper 18%, Raw Sunscale Salmon 18%
Tanaris205Raw Spotted Yellowtail 25.3%, Raw Summer Bass 25%, Stonescale Eel 15%
The Hinterlands205Raw Redgill 35.4%, Raw Nightfin Snapper 18%, Raw Sunscale Salmon 18%
Un'Goro Crater205Raw Redgill 35.4%, Raw Nightfin Snapper 18%, Raw Sunscale Salmon 18%
Western Plaguelands205Raw Redgill 35.4%, Raw Nightfin Snapper 18%, Raw Sunscale Salmon 18%
Burning Steppes330Raw Whitescale Salmon 30.5%, Raw Nightfin Snapper 17%, Raw Sunscale Salmon 17%
Deadwind Pass330Lightning Eel 7%
Eastern Plaguelands330Raw Whitescale Salmon 30.5%, Raw Nightfin Snapper 17%, Raw Sunscale Salmon 17%
Silithus330Raw Whitescale Salmon 30.5%, Raw Nightfin Snapper 17%, Raw Sunscale Salmon 17%
Winterspring330Raw Whitescale Salmon 30.5%, Raw Nightfin Snapper 17%, Raw Sunscale Salmon 17%

Each zone's fishing skill and what its water gives are Classic data (CMaNGOS): from the zone's skill + 95 nothing gets away (a skill below 0 is Classic's way of saying any skill will do). caughtInForever is what ForeverDB players' addons caught there.

Data from ForeverDB.net, game build 1.60.1.70938. Places marked "Classic data" come from Classic and haven't been confirmed in Forever yet.

Sources

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Guides and tools

Sources: Wowhead, Icy Veins, ForeverDB, wow-professions.com

No field findings recorded yet: our own tested discoveries appear in their own tab, marked with how well they're tested.

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