TazdingoAn unofficial field guide and market tracker for World of Warcraft: Forever

Engineering

Crafting Pre-launch Updated

275 recipes, 77 new in Forever (ForeverDB, game build 1.60.1.70938)

Cheatsheet

Pick it for
gadgets and tools you expect to use, and guns for Warriors, Hunters and Rogues; check each item's use requirement first.
Pairs with
Mining, for bars and stone. Wowhead suggests Blacksmithing for plate and mail wearers who want to share materials (Wowhead).
Levelling route
wow-professions.com (ranges unchanged from Classic): 1–50 Rough Blasting Powder, Copper Bolts (keep both) · 50–150 Copper Bombs, Dynamite, Bronze Tubes, Whirring Bronze Gizmos · 150–200 Bronze Frameworks, Explosive Sheep, Mithril Tubes · 200–300 Unstable Triggers to Thorium Tubes, untested past 225 (wow-professions.com).
Money makers
Wowhead thinks items non-engineers can use may make it a gold-maker, but won't commit. SAF-T Dynamite has no skill requirement, so it can sell (ForeverDB). The best epic ammo binds on pickup, so it isn't a trade good.
Camp items
Reagent Bot (20), sells reagents to the camp · Repair Bot (140), also repairs, blueprint from Sneed in the Deadmines · Anarchist's Workbench (300), a station, source unknown. No stat buff.
Trainers and ranks
Artisan at skill 200 and level 35 from Buzzek Bracketswing in Gadgetzan (wow-professions.com) · Gnomish or Goblin specialisation by quest chain from level 30 and skill 200; its membership card lasts 14 days and is renewed by quest (Wowhead).
Watch out
the Gnome racial no longer adds +15 skill; devices fail or backfire 20% less often. Some gadgets scale with skill (Icy Veins). No passive perks. Keep Explosive Sheep and Mithril Tubes for the specialisation quests.

Best estimated margins

RecipeSkillEstimated margin
EZ-Thro Bronze Mortar19011g 65s 84c ForeverDB
Gnomish Rocket Boots22510g 84s 0c ForeverDB
Salt Shaker25010g 64s 65c ForeverDB
Gnomish Shrink Ray2056g 24s 70c ForeverDB
Gnomish Harm Prevention Belt2155g 57s 16c ForeverDB
Goblin Mortar03g 35s 73c ForeverDB

Asking prices, before selling and training costs; not proof of demand. All Engineering margins.

Camp items

ItemSkillEffect
Reagent Bot20Summons a Reagent Bot that allows you and others nearby to purchase reagents.
Repair Bot140Summons a Repair Bot that allows you and others nearby to buy reagents and repair gear.
Anarchist's Workbench300Places an Anarchist's Workbench usable for recipes that require it.

In depth

What changed in Forever

More for non-engineers. Wowhead sees a shift towards Engineering items that anyone can use, and thinks this could make the profession a gold-maker, though it won't commit yet. ForeverDB gives an example: the new SAF-T Dynamite does the same damage as Rough Dynamite, but the client gives it no skill requirement, so you can sell it. The trade-camp vendors sell a run of new schematics for Merchant's Favor (Wowhead):

  • Explosives: SAF-T and EZ-Thro bombs and satchels.
  • Gear: belts at skill 175 (Clanking Cord, Gizmo Girdle and Whimsical Waistwrap) and four goggles at 200 (Bent, Dented, Floppy and Stuckbutton).
  • At 225–300: an Emergency Field Cloak, a Gnomish Army Knife, a Loot-A-Rang, a SAF-T Disposable Parachute and an Ultralight Goblin Glider.

Icy Veins describes the Emergency Field Cloak as a bind-on-pickup trinket that gives brief invisibility.

Guns, scopes and ammo. Engineers are still the only crafters who make guns. New at the top end are the Hyper Deluxe Sniper Rifle Mk XVII and the SAF-T Ultra Precision Scope. Wowhead notes that crafted ammunition could be traded in Classic, but Forever's best epic ammo, Swiftfeather Arrow and Swiftstrike Shot, binds on pickup.

No passive perks. Wowhead found no sign of Wrath-style profession perks in Forever. Warcraft Tavern agrees: a profession's value lies in what it makes and its camp buff.

Gnome racial. wow-professions.com says Engineering Specialization no longer adds +15 skill. It now makes devices fail or backfire 20% less often, so Gnomes level Engineering like everyone else. Icy Veins also says some gadgets scale with your Engineering skill, so the same device does less for an engineer at 250 than at 300.

ForeverDB flags three crafts as notable crafts within the level-30 bracket: Flying Tiger Goggles and Shadow Goggles for a wide range of specs, and the Rough Boomstick for Hunters and some melee.

Specialisations

Wowhead documents both quest chains, each starting at level 30 with skill 200:

  • Goblin: starts with Tinkerwiz in Ratchet and runs through Nixx Sprocketspring in Gadgetzan. The final step asks for Big Iron Bombs, Solid Dynamite and Explosive Sheep.
  • Gnomish: starts at any Engineering trainer and leads to Tinkmaster Overspark in Ironforge (Alliance) or Oglethorpe Obnoticus in Booty Bay (Horde). It asks for Mithril Tubes, Advanced Target Dummies and an Accurate Scope.

Each chain ends with a membership card that unlocks that school's schematics. The card lasts 14 days and must be renewed by a quest. Wowhead lists every specialisation recipe as unchanged from Classic. wow-professions.com advises keeping a few Explosive Sheep and Mithril Tubes from levelling, in case you need them for the quest.

Levelling, in brief

wow-professions.com says Engineering kept every skill range from Classic. Its route, summarised:

SkillWhat guides make
1–50Rough Blasting Powder and Handful of Copper Bolts (keep both), then an Arclight Spanner
50–150Rough Copper Bombs, Coarse Blasting Powder and Dynamite, Silver Contacts (or Flying Tiger Goggles), Bronze Tubes, Standard Scopes, then Heavy Blasting Powder and Whirring Bronze Gizmos
150–200Bronze Frameworks, Explosive Sheep, Solid Blasting Powder or Iron Grenades, a Gyromatic Micro-Adjustor, then Mithril Tubes
200–300Unstable Triggers, Mithril Casings, Hi-Explosive Bombs, Dense Blasting Powder, Thorium Widgets and Tubes. Untested past 225

wowtbc.gg prices its route from Auction House scans. It leans on Crude Scopes, Copper Modulators, Flying Tiger Goggles and Gyrochronatoms on the way to 200. Artisan needs level 35 and skill 200, and comes from Buzzek Bracketswing in Gadgetzan (wow-professions.com).

Money outlook

  • Gadgets for everyone: Wowhead is cautious. It thinks the items non-engineers can use may make Engineering a strong gold-maker, but won't say yet. SAF-T Dynamite is one such item (ForeverDB).
  • Ammo: the best ammunition now binds on pickup, which rules it out as a trade good at the top end (Wowhead).
  • Title: at 300 you can buy an Engineering Certification and the title "the Engineer" for 1,000 Merchant's Favor (Wowhead).

Open questions

  • Which new gadgets need the profession to use and which don't. Stats for several new items were hidden in the beta.
  • Where the Anarchist's Workbench blueprint drops. The Repair Bot blueprint drops from Sneed in the Deadmines (wow-professions.com).

Trainers and recipes

Ranks: Apprentice to 75 · Journeyman to 150 · Expert to 225 · Artisan to 300.

Trainers

TrainerFactionWhereTrains to
Strange HermitBothZephras Isle (54, 39) Seen in Forever
Tinkerwiz Journeyman EngineerBothThe Barrens (63, 36) Seen in Forever75
Mukdrak Journeyman EngineerHordeDurotar (52, 41) Seen in Forever75
Nogg Expert EngineerHordeOrgrimmar (76, 25) Seen in Forever150
Bronk Guzzlegear Journeyman EngineerAllianceDun Morogh (50, 50) Seen in Forever75
Jemma Quikswitch Journeyman EngineerAllianceIronforge (68, 44) Seen in Forever75
Deek Fizzlebizz Journeyman EngineerAllianceLoch Modan (46, 14) Seen in Forever75
Sprite Jumpsprocket Journeyman EngineerAllianceStormwind City (62, 31) Seen in Forever75
Trixie Quikswitch Expert EngineerAllianceIronforge (68, 43) Seen in Forever150
Lilliam Sparkspindle Expert EngineerAllianceStormwind City (62, 31) Seen in Forever150
Twizwick Sprocketgrind Journeyman EngineerBothMulgore (59, 39) Classic data75
Thund Journeyman EngineerHordeOrgrimmar (76, 24) Classic data75
Graham Van Talen Journeyman EngineerHordeUndercity (75, 73) Classic data75
Franklin Lloyd Expert EngineerHordeUndercity (76, 74) Classic data150

Recipes you buy

RecipeSkillSold by
SAF-T Dynamite New in Forever25Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor
SAF-T Tabs New in Forever25Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor
SAF-T Copper Bomb New in Forever55Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor
Satchel of Copper Bombs New in Forever85Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor
EZ-Thro Wrap New in Forever100Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor
Lovingly Crafted Boomstick120Fradd Swiftgear, Wetlands (26, 26) Seen in Forever 10s 0c; Jinky Twizzlefixxit, Thousand Needles (78, 78) Seen in Forever 10s 0c
Gnomish Universal Remote125Gearcutter Cogspinner, Ironforge (68, 43) Seen in Forever 12s 0c; Jinky Twizzlefixxit, Thousand Needles (78, 78) Seen in Forever 12s 0c
EZ-Thro Copper Bomb XL New in Forever130Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor
Minor Recombobulator140Fradd Swiftgear, Wetlands (26, 26) Seen in Forever 15s 0c (limited); Gagsprocket, The Barrens (63, 36) Seen in Forever 15s 0c (limited)
Repair Bot New in Forever140Happy Camper, Durotar (45, 13) Seen in Forever 15s 0c
No Slip SAF-T Padding New in Forever145Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor
Blue Firework150Gearcutter Cogspinner, Ironforge (68, 43) Seen in Forever 18s 0c; Darian Singh, Stormwind City (42, 77) Classic data 18s 0c (limited)
Green Firework150Gagsprocket, The Barrens (63, 36) Seen in Forever 18s 0c; Crazk Sparks, Stranglethorn Vale (28, 77) Classic data 18s 0c (limited)
Red Firework150Sovik, Orgrimmar (76, 25) Seen in Forever 18s 0c
Ice Deflector155Rizz Loosebolt, Alterac Mountains (47, 35) Classic data 18s 0c (limited)
Goblin Jumper Cables165Kzixx, Duskwood (82, 20) Seen in Forever 20s 0c (limited); Veenix, Stonetalon Mountains (58, 52) Seen in Forever 20s 0c (limited); Zixil, Hillsbrad Foothills (61, 20) Seen in Forever 20s 0c (limited)
Satchel of Bronze Bombs New in Forever165Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor
Clanking Cord New in Forever175Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor
Gizmo Girdle New in Forever175Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor
SAF-T Bell New in Forever175Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor
Whimsical Waistwrap New in Forever175Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor
Accurate Scope180Mazk Snipeshot, Stranglethorn Vale (28, 75) Classic data 20s 0c (limited)
EZ-Thro Fireproof Fuse New in Forever190Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor
Bent Goggles New in Forever200Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor
Dented Goggles New in Forever200Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor
EZ-Thro Dynamite II200Blizrik Buckshot, Tanaris (51, 28) Classic data 50s 0c (limited)
Floppy Goggles New in Forever200Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor
Gnomish Cloaking Device200Zan Shivsproket, Alterac Mountains (86, 80) Classic data 24s 0c (limited)
Mechanical Dragonling200Gnaz Blunderflame, Stranglethorn Vale (51, 35) Classic data 1g 0s 0c (limited)
Stuckbutton Goggles New in Forever200Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor
Deadly Scope210Knaz Blunderflame, Stranglethorn Vale (51, 35) Classic data 30s 0c (limited); Yuka Screwspigot, Burning Steppes (66, 22) Classic data 30s 0c (limited)
Compact Critter Carrier New in Forever225Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 270 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 270 Merchant's Favor
Emergency Field Cloak New in Forever225Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 270 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 270 Merchant's Favor
Deepdive Helmet230Jubie Gadgetspring, Azshara (45, 91) Classic data 36s 0c (limited)
Satchel of Iron Bombs New in Forever230Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 270 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 270 Merchant's Favor
Mithril Mechanical Dragonling250Ruppo Zipcoil, The Hinterlands (34, 38) Classic data 40s 0c (limited)
SAF-T Disposable Parachute New in Forever250Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 270 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 270 Merchant's Favor
Snake Burst Firework250Zorbin Fandazzle, Feralas (45, 43) Classic data 50s 0c
Gyrofreeze Ice Reflector260Xizzer Fizzbolt, Winterspring (61, 39) Classic data 1g 20s 0c (limited)
Thorium Grenade260Gearcutter Cogspinner, Ironforge (68, 43) Seen in Forever 1g 20s 0c; Sovik, Orgrimmar (76, 25) Seen in Forever 1g 20s 0c

And 14 more on ForeverDB.

Data from ForeverDB.net, game build 1.60.1.70938. Places marked "Classic data" come from Classic and haven't been confirmed in Forever yet.

Sources

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Guides and tools

Sources: Wowhead, Icy Veins, ForeverDB, wow-professions.com, wowtbc.gg, Warcraft Tavern

No field findings recorded yet: our own tested discoveries appear in their own tab, marked with how well they're tested.

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