Engineering
Crafting Pre-launch Updated
275 recipes, 77 new in Forever (ForeverDB, game build 1.60.1.70938)
Cheatsheet
- Pick it for
- gadgets and tools you expect to use, and guns for Warriors, Hunters and Rogues; check each item's use requirement first.
- Pairs with
- Mining, for bars and stone. Wowhead suggests Blacksmithing for plate and mail wearers who want to share materials (Wowhead).
- Levelling route
- wow-professions.com (ranges unchanged from Classic): 1–50 Rough Blasting Powder, Copper Bolts (keep both) · 50–150 Copper Bombs, Dynamite, Bronze Tubes, Whirring Bronze Gizmos · 150–200 Bronze Frameworks, Explosive Sheep, Mithril Tubes · 200–300 Unstable Triggers to Thorium Tubes, untested past 225 (wow-professions.com).
- Money makers
- Wowhead thinks items non-engineers can use may make it a gold-maker, but won't commit. SAF-T Dynamite has no skill requirement, so it can sell (ForeverDB). The best epic ammo binds on pickup, so it isn't a trade good.
- Camp items
- Reagent Bot (20), sells reagents to the camp · Repair Bot (140), also repairs, blueprint from Sneed in the Deadmines · Anarchist's Workbench (300), a station, source unknown. No stat buff.
- Trainers and ranks
- Artisan at skill 200 and level 35 from Buzzek Bracketswing in Gadgetzan (wow-professions.com) · Gnomish or Goblin specialisation by quest chain from level 30 and skill 200; its membership card lasts 14 days and is renewed by quest (Wowhead).
- Watch out
- the Gnome racial no longer adds +15 skill; devices fail or backfire 20% less often. Some gadgets scale with skill (Icy Veins). No passive perks. Keep Explosive Sheep and Mithril Tubes for the specialisation quests.
Best estimated margins
| Recipe | Skill | Estimated margin |
|---|---|---|
| EZ-Thro Bronze Mortar | 190 | 11g 65s 84c ForeverDB |
| Gnomish Rocket Boots | 225 | 10g 84s 0c ForeverDB |
| Salt Shaker | 250 | 10g 64s 65c ForeverDB |
| Gnomish Shrink Ray | 205 | 6g 24s 70c ForeverDB |
| Gnomish Harm Prevention Belt | 215 | 5g 57s 16c ForeverDB |
| Goblin Mortar | 0 | 3g 35s 73c ForeverDB |
Asking prices, before selling and training costs; not proof of demand. All Engineering margins.
Camp items
| Item | Skill | Effect |
|---|---|---|
| Reagent Bot | 20 | Summons a Reagent Bot that allows you and others nearby to purchase reagents. |
| Repair Bot | 140 | Summons a Repair Bot that allows you and others nearby to buy reagents and repair gear. |
| Anarchist's Workbench | 300 | Places an Anarchist's Workbench usable for recipes that require it. |
In depth
What changed in Forever
More for non-engineers. Wowhead sees a shift towards Engineering items that anyone can use, and thinks this could make the profession a gold-maker, though it won't commit yet. ForeverDB gives an example: the new SAF-T Dynamite does the same damage as Rough Dynamite, but the client gives it no skill requirement, so you can sell it. The trade-camp vendors sell a run of new schematics for Merchant's Favor (Wowhead):
- Explosives: SAF-T and EZ-Thro bombs and satchels.
- Gear: belts at skill 175 (Clanking Cord, Gizmo Girdle and Whimsical Waistwrap) and four goggles at 200 (Bent, Dented, Floppy and Stuckbutton).
- At 225–300: an Emergency Field Cloak, a Gnomish Army Knife, a Loot-A-Rang, a SAF-T Disposable Parachute and an Ultralight Goblin Glider.
Icy Veins describes the Emergency Field Cloak as a bind-on-pickup trinket that gives brief invisibility.
Guns, scopes and ammo. Engineers are still the only crafters who make guns. New at the top end are the Hyper Deluxe Sniper Rifle Mk XVII and the SAF-T Ultra Precision Scope. Wowhead notes that crafted ammunition could be traded in Classic, but Forever's best epic ammo, Swiftfeather Arrow and Swiftstrike Shot, binds on pickup.
No passive perks. Wowhead found no sign of Wrath-style profession perks in Forever. Warcraft Tavern agrees: a profession's value lies in what it makes and its camp buff.
Gnome racial. wow-professions.com says Engineering Specialization no longer adds +15 skill. It now makes devices fail or backfire 20% less often, so Gnomes level Engineering like everyone else. Icy Veins also says some gadgets scale with your Engineering skill, so the same device does less for an engineer at 250 than at 300.
ForeverDB flags three crafts as notable crafts within the level-30 bracket: Flying Tiger Goggles and Shadow Goggles for a wide range of specs, and the Rough Boomstick for Hunters and some melee.
Specialisations
Wowhead documents both quest chains, each starting at level 30 with skill 200:
- Goblin: starts with Tinkerwiz in Ratchet and runs through Nixx Sprocketspring in Gadgetzan. The final step asks for Big Iron Bombs, Solid Dynamite and Explosive Sheep.
- Gnomish: starts at any Engineering trainer and leads to Tinkmaster Overspark in Ironforge (Alliance) or Oglethorpe Obnoticus in Booty Bay (Horde). It asks for Mithril Tubes, Advanced Target Dummies and an Accurate Scope.
Each chain ends with a membership card that unlocks that school's schematics. The card lasts 14 days and must be renewed by a quest. Wowhead lists every specialisation recipe as unchanged from Classic. wow-professions.com advises keeping a few Explosive Sheep and Mithril Tubes from levelling, in case you need them for the quest.
Levelling, in brief
wow-professions.com says Engineering kept every skill range from Classic. Its route, summarised:
| Skill | What guides make |
|---|---|
| 1–50 | Rough Blasting Powder and Handful of Copper Bolts (keep both), then an Arclight Spanner |
| 50–150 | Rough Copper Bombs, Coarse Blasting Powder and Dynamite, Silver Contacts (or Flying Tiger Goggles), Bronze Tubes, Standard Scopes, then Heavy Blasting Powder and Whirring Bronze Gizmos |
| 150–200 | Bronze Frameworks, Explosive Sheep, Solid Blasting Powder or Iron Grenades, a Gyromatic Micro-Adjustor, then Mithril Tubes |
| 200–300 | Unstable Triggers, Mithril Casings, Hi-Explosive Bombs, Dense Blasting Powder, Thorium Widgets and Tubes. Untested past 225 |
wowtbc.gg prices its route from Auction House scans. It leans on Crude Scopes, Copper Modulators, Flying Tiger Goggles and Gyrochronatoms on the way to 200. Artisan needs level 35 and skill 200, and comes from Buzzek Bracketswing in Gadgetzan (wow-professions.com).
Money outlook
- Gadgets for everyone: Wowhead is cautious. It thinks the items non-engineers can use may make Engineering a strong gold-maker, but won't say yet. SAF-T Dynamite is one such item (ForeverDB).
- Ammo: the best ammunition now binds on pickup, which rules it out as a trade good at the top end (Wowhead).
- Title: at 300 you can buy an Engineering Certification and the title "the Engineer" for 1,000 Merchant's Favor (Wowhead).
Open questions
- Which new gadgets need the profession to use and which don't. Stats for several new items were hidden in the beta.
- Where the Anarchist's Workbench blueprint drops. The Repair Bot blueprint drops from Sneed in the Deadmines (wow-professions.com).
Trainers and recipes
Ranks: Apprentice to 75 · Journeyman to 150 · Expert to 225 · Artisan to 300.
Trainers
| Trainer | Faction | Where | Trains to |
|---|---|---|---|
| Strange Hermit | Both | Zephras Isle (54, 39) Seen in Forever | |
| Tinkerwiz Journeyman Engineer | Both | The Barrens (63, 36) Seen in Forever | 75 |
| Mukdrak Journeyman Engineer | Horde | Durotar (52, 41) Seen in Forever | 75 |
| Nogg Expert Engineer | Horde | Orgrimmar (76, 25) Seen in Forever | 150 |
| Bronk Guzzlegear Journeyman Engineer | Alliance | Dun Morogh (50, 50) Seen in Forever | 75 |
| Jemma Quikswitch Journeyman Engineer | Alliance | Ironforge (68, 44) Seen in Forever | 75 |
| Deek Fizzlebizz Journeyman Engineer | Alliance | Loch Modan (46, 14) Seen in Forever | 75 |
| Sprite Jumpsprocket Journeyman Engineer | Alliance | Stormwind City (62, 31) Seen in Forever | 75 |
| Trixie Quikswitch Expert Engineer | Alliance | Ironforge (68, 43) Seen in Forever | 150 |
| Lilliam Sparkspindle Expert Engineer | Alliance | Stormwind City (62, 31) Seen in Forever | 150 |
| Twizwick Sprocketgrind Journeyman Engineer | Both | Mulgore (59, 39) Classic data | 75 |
| Thund Journeyman Engineer | Horde | Orgrimmar (76, 24) Classic data | 75 |
| Graham Van Talen Journeyman Engineer | Horde | Undercity (75, 73) Classic data | 75 |
| Franklin Lloyd Expert Engineer | Horde | Undercity (76, 74) Classic data | 150 |
Recipes you buy
| Recipe | Skill | Sold by |
|---|---|---|
| SAF-T Dynamite New in Forever | 25 | Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor |
| SAF-T Tabs New in Forever | 25 | Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor |
| SAF-T Copper Bomb New in Forever | 55 | Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor |
| Satchel of Copper Bombs New in Forever | 85 | Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor |
| EZ-Thro Wrap New in Forever | 100 | Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor |
| Lovingly Crafted Boomstick | 120 | Fradd Swiftgear, Wetlands (26, 26) Seen in Forever 10s 0c; Jinky Twizzlefixxit, Thousand Needles (78, 78) Seen in Forever 10s 0c |
| Gnomish Universal Remote | 125 | Gearcutter Cogspinner, Ironforge (68, 43) Seen in Forever 12s 0c; Jinky Twizzlefixxit, Thousand Needles (78, 78) Seen in Forever 12s 0c |
| EZ-Thro Copper Bomb XL New in Forever | 130 | Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor |
| Minor Recombobulator | 140 | Fradd Swiftgear, Wetlands (26, 26) Seen in Forever 15s 0c (limited); Gagsprocket, The Barrens (63, 36) Seen in Forever 15s 0c (limited) |
| Repair Bot New in Forever | 140 | Happy Camper, Durotar (45, 13) Seen in Forever 15s 0c |
| No Slip SAF-T Padding New in Forever | 145 | Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor |
| Blue Firework | 150 | Gearcutter Cogspinner, Ironforge (68, 43) Seen in Forever 18s 0c; Darian Singh, Stormwind City (42, 77) Classic data 18s 0c (limited) |
| Green Firework | 150 | Gagsprocket, The Barrens (63, 36) Seen in Forever 18s 0c; Crazk Sparks, Stranglethorn Vale (28, 77) Classic data 18s 0c (limited) |
| Red Firework | 150 | Sovik, Orgrimmar (76, 25) Seen in Forever 18s 0c |
| Ice Deflector | 155 | Rizz Loosebolt, Alterac Mountains (47, 35) Classic data 18s 0c (limited) |
| Goblin Jumper Cables | 165 | Kzixx, Duskwood (82, 20) Seen in Forever 20s 0c (limited); Veenix, Stonetalon Mountains (58, 52) Seen in Forever 20s 0c (limited); Zixil, Hillsbrad Foothills (61, 20) Seen in Forever 20s 0c (limited) |
| Satchel of Bronze Bombs New in Forever | 165 | Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor |
| Clanking Cord New in Forever | 175 | Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor |
| Gizmo Girdle New in Forever | 175 | Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor |
| SAF-T Bell New in Forever | 175 | Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor |
| Whimsical Waistwrap New in Forever | 175 | Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor |
| Accurate Scope | 180 | Mazk Snipeshot, Stranglethorn Vale (28, 75) Classic data 20s 0c (limited) |
| EZ-Thro Fireproof Fuse New in Forever | 190 | Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor |
| Bent Goggles New in Forever | 200 | Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor |
| Dented Goggles New in Forever | 200 | Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor |
| EZ-Thro Dynamite II | 200 | Blizrik Buckshot, Tanaris (51, 28) Classic data 50s 0c (limited) |
| Floppy Goggles New in Forever | 200 | Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor |
| Gnomish Cloaking Device | 200 | Zan Shivsproket, Alterac Mountains (86, 80) Classic data 24s 0c (limited) |
| Mechanical Dragonling | 200 | Gnaz Blunderflame, Stranglethorn Vale (51, 35) Classic data 1g 0s 0c (limited) |
| Stuckbutton Goggles New in Forever | 200 | Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor |
| Deadly Scope | 210 | Knaz Blunderflame, Stranglethorn Vale (51, 35) Classic data 30s 0c (limited); Yuka Screwspigot, Burning Steppes (66, 22) Classic data 30s 0c (limited) |
| Compact Critter Carrier New in Forever | 225 | Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 270 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 270 Merchant's Favor |
| Emergency Field Cloak New in Forever | 225 | Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 270 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 270 Merchant's Favor |
| Deepdive Helmet | 230 | Jubie Gadgetspring, Azshara (45, 91) Classic data 36s 0c (limited) |
| Satchel of Iron Bombs New in Forever | 230 | Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 270 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 270 Merchant's Favor |
| Mithril Mechanical Dragonling | 250 | Ruppo Zipcoil, The Hinterlands (34, 38) Classic data 40s 0c (limited) |
| SAF-T Disposable Parachute New in Forever | 250 | Fritz Fizzle, Redridge Mountains (10, 74) Seen in Forever 270 Merchant's Favor; Fizzlefuse, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 270 Merchant's Favor |
| Snake Burst Firework | 250 | Zorbin Fandazzle, Feralas (45, 43) Classic data 50s 0c |
| Gyrofreeze Ice Reflector | 260 | Xizzer Fizzbolt, Winterspring (61, 39) Classic data 1g 20s 0c (limited) |
| Thorium Grenade | 260 | Gearcutter Cogspinner, Ironforge (68, 43) Seen in Forever 1g 20s 0c; Sovik, Orgrimmar (76, 25) Seen in Forever 1g 20s 0c |
And 14 more on ForeverDB.
Data from ForeverDB.net, game build 1.60.1.70938. Places marked "Classic data" come from Classic and haven't been confirmed in Forever yet.
Sources
Read more
- Wowhead: Engineering Overview in Forever: new schematics, guns and ammo, both specialisation quest chains
- Icy Veins: Engineering Guide: what engineers make, tools, camp items, ranks
- ForeverDB: Engineering: every schematic from the beta client, best-in-slot crafts
- ForeverDB: Professions, a beginner's guide: early engineering items and SAF-T Dynamite
- wow-professions.com: Engineering levelling guide: a full route, the Gnome racial change
- wowtbc.gg: Engineering levelling guide: a route priced from Auction House data
- Warcraft Tavern: Professions Overview: no passive profession perks, the reworked racials
- wow-professions.com: Camping guide: bot and workbench materials and drops
Guides and tools
- ForeverDB: Engineering Every recipe, trainers, where to learn
- Icy Veins: professions overview
- ForeverDB: best profession pairs
Sources: Wowhead, Icy Veins, ForeverDB, wow-professions.com, wowtbc.gg, Warcraft Tavern
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