TazdingoAn unofficial field guide and market tracker for World of Warcraft: Forever

Alchemy

Crafting Pre-launch Updated

196 recipes, 68 new in Forever (ForeverDB, game build 1.60.1.70938)

Cheatsheet

Pick it for
consumables you will use or sell repeatedly, for any class; dozens of new low-level recipes make it worth taking while levelling (Wowhead).
Pairs with
Herbalism, since nearly every recipe uses herbs. Buying herbs can be faster when you have the gold; gathered herbs still have a sale value.
Levelling route
wow-professions.com, a Beta estimate: 1–55 Elixir of Minor Defense · 55–150 Minor Mana Potions, Elixir of Wisdom, Fire Oil · 150–225 Elixir of Fire Power, Mana Potions, Nature Protection Potions · 225–300 untested (wow-professions.com). wowtbc.gg uses oils and Free Action Potions instead.
Money makers
Wowhead expects steady consumable demand; Icy Veins rates elixirs (they stack) and reagents such as oils and dyes (Icy Veins). Transmutes such as Arcanite pay only when output beats every input and selling cost. Scan margins are estimates from asking prices.
Camp items
Mana Well (20), mana for everyone sitting nearby, doesn't stack with Blessing of Wisdom · Fermenter (140), makes certain reagents · Alchemy Laboratory (300), a station some recipes need.
Trainers and ranks
Journeyman 50 and level 10 · Expert 125 and level 20 · Artisan 200 and level 35, from Rogvar in Stonard (Horde) or Kylanna Windwhisper in Feathermoon Stronghold (Alliance) (wow-professions.com). New recipes: Nina Surefire (Redridge) or Apothecary Durelle (Crossroads), for Merchant's Favor.
Watch out
plain healing potions are First Aid now; Alchemy's Discolored ones heal more but you then lose 75% of it over time (ForeverDB). Sources of the 300 flasks, Legionite transmute and Laboratory blueprint are unknown.

Best estimated margins

RecipeSkillEstimated margin
Transmute: Arcanite27518g 62s 40c ForeverDB
Distilled Firewater2504g 37s 36c ForeverDB
Transmute: Life to Earth2753g 39s 17c our scan
Ghost Dye2452g 75s 34c ForeverDB
Transmute: Fire to Earth2752g 43s 0c our scan
Elixir of the Grizzly3002g 31s 37c ForeverDB

Asking prices, before selling and training costs; not proof of demand. All Alchemy margins.

Camp items

ItemSkillEffect
Mana Well20Constructs a mana well that allows you and others sitting nearby to regenerate 10 (below level 24), 15 (levels 24–33), 20 (levels 34–43), 24 (levels 44–53) or 29 (level 54+) Mana every 5 sec, mutually exclusive with Blessing of Wisdom.
Fermenter140Places a fermenter that allows the creation of certain reagents, and provides all of the benefits of a Mana Well.
Alchemy Laboratory300Places an Alchemy Laboratory usable for recipes that require it, and provides all of the benefits of a Mana Well.

In depth

What changed in Forever

Healing potions moved to First Aid. All the sources agree that the plain line, from Minor to Major Healing Potion, is now a First Aid recipe. Alchemy keeps a "Discolored" line instead. ForeverDB quotes the tooltip of the Minor Discolored Healing Potion: it heals more, but you then lose 75% of that amount over time as a poison or disease. Wowhead says these are taught by special trainers, Odd Child or Apothecary Renferrel depending on faction. Icy Veins warns returning players not to look for healing potions in their Alchemy list.

New recipe families. From Wowhead's recipe tables and ForeverDB:

  • Mageblood and Cleric's elixirs: two new elixir lines from skill 25. The Minor Mageblood Elixir restores mana over 30 minutes.
  • Mender's, Spellblasting and Frenzy potions: short boosts to healing, spell damage or Attack Power for a hard fight, from Minor up to Major. The Minor ones last 30 seconds (ForeverDB).
  • Other new potions: Disorienting Smog, Caustic Smog, Dragonfire Potion, Potion of Venomous Blood and Potion of Elemental Purging.
  • New elixirs for Friendly and Honored standing with the trade camps: Elixir of the Phalanx, Whale, Owl, Grizzly and Nature Power, among others.
  • Reagents for other crafts: Cerulean, Magenta and Viridian Dye from Herbalism's new Scarce materials, and Sulfuric Acid from Mining's Pyrite (Icy Veins).
  • Endgame: four new flasks at 300 (Natural Accuracy, Aggression, Precision and Swiftness), using the new herbs, and Transmute: Legionite, which turns Heavy Thorium Bars into Legionite Bars. Where these recipes come from isn't known yet.

Many of the new recipes are sold by Nina Surefire (Alliance, Three Corners in Redridge) or Apothecary Durelle (Horde, outside the Crossroads) for Merchant's Favor, and the better ones need Friendly or Honored standing (Wowhead). Some recipes can only be made next to a Fermenter or an Alchemy Laboratory. The Fermenter blueprint drops from Rath'mael in the new Ruins of Lordaeron dungeon; the Laboratory's source is still unknown (Wowhead, wow-professions.com).

Levelling, in brief

wow-professions.com says Alchemy's skill ranges are the same as Classic's, minus the healing potions. Its route, summarised:

SkillWhat the guide makes
1–55Minor Arcane Elixir or Elixir of Minor Force (both new), then Elixir of Minor Defense
55–150Minor Mana Potions, Elixir of Minor Fortitude, Elixir of Wisdom, Lesser Mana Potions, then Fire Oil (or more mana potions if Firefin Snapper is dear)
150–225Elixir of Fire Power, Mana Potions, then Nature Protection Potions from a vendor recipe that binds on pickup
225–300Untested at the beta cap: Classic's route without the healing potions. For the last points it suggests the Major Frenzy Potion, sold for Merchant's Favor

wowtbc.gg, which prices its route from Auction House scans, takes a different path: Elixir of Minor Defense to 75, then Blackmouth Oil, Fire Oil and Free Action Potions, with Mana Potions to about 200. Both stop near the beta's 225 ceiling.

Ranks need skill 50 and level 10 (Journeyman), 125 and level 20 (Expert), and 200 and level 35 (Artisan), per Icy Veins and wow-professions.com. For Artisan, wow-professions.com sends Horde to Rogvar in Stonard and Alliance to Kylanna Windwhisper in Feathermoon Stronghold; Wowhead also lists Kylanna Windwhisper.

What's worth making

  • Transmutes: Transmute: Arcanite and similar cooldowns can add value when output proceeds exceed all input and selling costs. Compare the value of competing uses of the cooldown; profit is not guaranteed.
  • Consumables: Wowhead expects steady demand because so many players buy them, though the best sellers will shift with the market.
  • Elixirs: Icy Veins notes that elixirs stack with each other, which makes them sought after at endgame.
  • Reagents: Icy Veins calls the oils, dyes and other reagents a strong income, because other professions need them for their own gear.
  • Scan prices: the site's price tables show the selected realm, faction and capture date. Before launch, Beta snapshots are historical examples; displayed margins are estimates from asking prices, not today's launch prices or completed sales.

Open questions

  • The sources of the 300-skill flasks, the Legionite transmute and the Alchemy Laboratory blueprint.
  • Whether the untested 225–300 route holds once players reach level 35.

Trainers and recipes

Ranks: Apprentice to 75 · Journeyman to 150 · Expert to 225 · Artisan to 300.

Trainers

TrainerFactionWhereTrains to
Nyassa Swiftdraught AlchemistBothZephras Isle (44, 44) Seen in Forever
Valiena SwiftgaleBothZephras Isle (59, 76) Seen in Forever
Bena Winterhoof Expert AlchemistHordeThunder Bluff (47, 34) Seen in Forever55
Miao'zan Journeyman AlchemistHordeDurotar (55, 74) Seen in Forever140
Whuut Journeyman AlchemistHordeOrgrimmar (56, 33) Seen in Forever140
Kray Journeyman AlchemistHordeThunder Bluff (47, 34) Seen in Forever140
Carolai Anise Journeyman AlchemistHordeTirisfal Glades (59, 52) Seen in Forever140
Doctor Marsh Expert AlchemistHordeUndercity (52, 74) Seen in Forever140
Doctor Martin Felben Journeyman Alchemist TrainerHordeUndercity (47, 74) Seen in Forever140
Yelmak Expert AlchemistHordeOrgrimmar (57, 34) Seen in Forever180
Doctor Herbert Halsey Artisan AlchemistHordeUndercity (48, 73) Seen in Forever200
Kylanna Expert AlchemistAllianceAshenvale (51, 67) Seen in Forever140
Milla Fairancora Journeyman AlchemistAllianceDarnassus (55, 23) Seen in Forever140
Sylvanna Forestmoon Expert AlchemistAllianceDarnassus (56, 24) Seen in Forever140

Recipes you buy

RecipeSkillSold by
Rage Potion60Defias Profiteer, Westfall (44, 67) Seen in Forever 1s 0c (limited); Ranik, The Barrens (62, 39) Seen in Forever 1s 0c; Hagrus, Orgrimmar (46, 46) Seen in Forever 1s 0c
Elixir of Lesser Spirit New in Forever65Nina Surefire, Redridge Mountains (11, 73) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor; Apothecary Durelle, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor
Lesser Mageblood Elixir New in Forever75Nina Surefire, Redridge Mountains (11, 73) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor; Apothecary Durelle, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor
Elixir of Lesser Intellect New in Forever95Nina Surefire, Redridge Mountains (11, 73) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor; Apothecary Durelle, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor
Lesser Cleric's Elixir New in Forever95Nina Surefire, Redridge Mountains (11, 73) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor; Apothecary Durelle, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor
Holy Protection Potion100Kzixx, Duskwood (82, 20) Seen in Forever 8s 0c; Hula'mahi, The Barrens (51, 30) Seen in Forever 8s 0c; Xandar Goodbeard, Loch Modan (82, 63) Classic data 8s 0c (limited)
Lesser Arcane Elixir120Nina Surefire, Redridge Mountains (11, 73) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor; Apothecary Durelle, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor
Mender's Potion New in Forever130Nina Surefire, Redridge Mountains (11, 73) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor; Apothecary Durelle, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor
Shadow Protection Potion135Harklan Moongrove, Ashenvale (51, 67) Seen in Forever 9s 0c; Christoph Jeffcoat, Hillsbrad Foothills (62, 19) Seen in Forever 9s 0c
Spellblasting Potion New in Forever135Nina Surefire, Redridge Mountains (11, 73) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor; Apothecary Durelle, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor
Fermenter New in Forever140Happy Camper, Durotar (45, 13) Seen in Forever 15s 0c
Frenzy Potion New in Forever140Nina Surefire, Redridge Mountains (11, 73) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor; Apothecary Durelle, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 45 Merchant's Favor
Free Action Potion150Soolie Berryfizz, Ironforge (66, 56) Seen in Forever 18s 0c; Ulthir, Darnassus (56, 24) Seen in Forever 18s 0c; Kor'geld, Orgrimmar (56, 34) Seen in Forever 18s 0c
Elixir of Greater Spirit New in Forever165Nina Surefire, Redridge Mountains (11, 73) Seen in Forever 120 Merchant's Favor; Apothecary Durelle, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 120 Merchant's Favor
Fire Protection Potion165Nandar Branson, Hillsbrad Foothills (51, 57) Seen in Forever 15s 0c; Jeeda, Stonetalon Mountains (48, 62) Seen in Forever 15s 0c
Shadow Oil165Montarr, Thousand Needles (45, 51) Seen in Forever 15s 0c; Bliztik, Duskwood (18, 54) Classic data 15s 0c (limited)
Great Rage Potion175Ulthir, Darnassus (56, 24) Seen in Forever 20s 0c (limited); Hagrus, Orgrimmar (46, 46) Seen in Forever 20s 0c (limited)
Greater Mageblood Elixir New in Forever175Nina Surefire, Redridge Mountains (11, 73) Seen in Forever 120 Merchant's Favor; Apothecary Durelle, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 120 Merchant's Favor
Frost Protection Potion190Drovnar Strongbrew, Arathi Highlands (46, 47) Seen in Forever 20s 0c; Glyx Brewright, Stranglethorn Vale (28, 78) Classic data 20s 0c (limited)
Nature Protection Potion190Logannas, Feralas (33, 44) Classic data 20s 0c (limited); Alchemist Pestlezugg, Tanaris (51, 27) Classic data 20s 0c (limited); Glyx Brewright, Stranglethorn Vale (28, 78) Classic data 20s 0c (limited)
Greater Cleric's Elixir New in Forever195Nina Surefire, Redridge Mountains (11, 73) Seen in Forever 120 Merchant's Favor; Apothecary Durelle, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 120 Merchant's Favor
Elixir of Greater Fortitude New in Forever200Nina Surefire, Redridge Mountains (11, 73) Seen in Forever 120 Merchant's Favor; Apothecary Durelle, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 120 Merchant's Favor
Frost Oil200Bro'kin, Alterac Mountains (38, 39) Classic data 25s 0c (limited)
Philosopher's Stone225Alchemist Pestlezugg, Tanaris (51, 27) Classic data 80s 0c
Transmute: Iron to Gold225Alchemist Pestlezugg, Tanaris (51, 27) Classic data 80s 0c
Transmute: Mithril to Truesilver225Alchemist Pestlezugg, Tanaris (51, 27) Classic data 80s 0c (limited)
Dragonfire Potion New in Forever245Nina Surefire, Redridge Mountains (11, 73) Seen in Forever 120 Merchant's Favor; Apothecary Durelle, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 120 Merchant's Favor
Ghost Dye245Logannas, Feralas (33, 44) Classic data 90s 0c (limited); Bronk, Feralas (76, 43) Classic data 90s 0c (limited)
Elixir of Shadow Power250Maria Lumere, Stormwind City (56, 86) Seen in Forever 1g 0s 0c; Algernon, Undercity (52, 74) Seen in Forever 1g 0s 0c
Elixir of the Phalanx New in Forever250Nina Surefire, Redridge Mountains (11, 73) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor; Apothecary Durelle, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor
Potion of Demon Slaying250Nina Lightbrew, Blasted Lands (67, 18) Classic data 1g 0s 0c (limited); Rartar, Swamp of Sorrows (45, 57) Classic data 1g 0s 0c (limited)
Superior Mana Potion260Ulthir, Darnassus (56, 24) Seen in Forever 1g 20s 0c; Algernon, Undercity (52, 74) Seen in Forever 1g 20s 0c
Caustic Smog Potion New in Forever265Nina Surefire, Redridge Mountains (11, 73) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor; Apothecary Durelle, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor
Elixir of Greater Defense265Soolie Berryfizz, Ironforge (66, 56) Seen in Forever 1g 30s 0c; Kor'geld, Orgrimmar (56, 34) Seen in Forever 1g 30s 0c
Elixir of Cunning New in Forever275Nina Surefire, Redridge Mountains (11, 73) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor; Apothecary Durelle, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor
Elixir of Ferocity New in Forever275Nina Surefire, Redridge Mountains (11, 73) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor; Apothecary Durelle, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor
Elixir of Sages New in Forever275Nina Surefire, Redridge Mountains (11, 73) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor; Apothecary Durelle, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor
Elixir of the Whale New in Forever275Nina Surefire, Redridge Mountains (11, 73) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor; Apothecary Durelle, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 180 Merchant's Favor
Greater Dreamless Sleep Potion275Rin'wosho the Trader, Stranglethorn Vale (15, 16) Classic data 5g 0s 0c
Mageblood Elixir275Rin'wosho the Trader, Stranglethorn Vale (15, 16) Classic data 5g 0s 0c

And 16 more on ForeverDB.

Data from ForeverDB.net, game build 1.60.1.70938. Places marked "Classic data" come from Classic and haven't been confirmed in Forever yet.

Sources

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Guides and tools

Sources: Wowhead, Icy Veins, ForeverDB, wow-professions.com, wowtbc.gg

No field findings recorded yet: our own tested discoveries appear in their own tab, marked with how well they're tested.

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