Blacksmithing
Crafting Pre-launch Updated
506 recipes, 197 new in Forever (ForeverDB, game build 1.60.1.70938)
Cheatsheet
- Pick it for
- specific self-crafted mail and plate, mainly for Warriors and Paladins, rather than a promised gold income (ForeverDB).
- Pairs with
- Mining, for ore, bars and stone. wow-professions.com warns that buying every bar costs a lot; mining still costs time and gives up ore sales.
- Levelling route
- the routes differ; compare before buying. wow-professions.com: 1–75 stones, Runed Copper Gauntlets · 75–150 Rough Bronze Leggings, Patterned Bronze Bracers · 150–225 Green Iron Bracers, Golden Scale Bracers, Mithril Plate Pants · 225–300 untested (wow-professions.com). wowtbc.gg runs Copper Chain Belts and Runed Copper pieces.
- Money makers
- guides say little. Icy Veins mentions Auction House sales and the rods every Enchanter needs (Icy Veins); ForeverDB notes weapon stones help any melee class. The role-themed gear is mainly for yourself.
- Camp items
- Sharpening Wheel (20), a Strength buff that doesn't stack with Strength of Earth Totem · Anvil (140), blueprint from Gilnid in the Deadmines · Master Forge (300), needed for many recipes, blueprint source unknown.
- Trainers and ranks
- Expert from Saru Steelfury (Orgrimmar) or Bengus Deepforge (Ironforge) · Artisan at skill 200 and level 35 from Brikk Keencraft in Booty Bay, both factions (wow-professions.com). Role-themed plans sell for Merchant's Favor at your trade camp.
- Watch out
- past 225 many recipes turn grey about 25 points earlier than in Classic, so don't follow a Classic guide. Check binding and station before spending Favor: Sentinel's Sabatons bind on pickup. Armorsmithing and Weaponsmithing are unconfirmed in Forever.
Best estimated margins
| Recipe | Skill | Estimated margin |
|---|---|---|
| Ornate Mithril Boots | 0 | 9g 72s 33c ForeverDB |
| Ornate Mithril Helm | 0 | 7g 75s 11c ForeverDB |
| Truesilver Gauntlets | 220 | 6g 39s 73c ForeverDB |
| Ornate Mithril Breastplate | 0 | 5g 20s 56c ForeverDB |
| Shining Mithril Gauntlet | 220 | 3g 0s 35c ForeverDB |
| Shining Mithril Helm | 215 | 2g 76s 82c ForeverDB |
Asking prices, before selling and training costs; not proof of demand. All Blacksmithing margins.
Camp items
| Item | Skill | Effect |
|---|---|---|
| Sharpening Wheel | 20 | Constructs a sharpening wheel that grants you and others sitting nearby 6 (below level 24), 11 (levels 24–37), 20 (levels 38–51) or 34 (level 52+) increased Strength, mutually exclusive with Strength of Earth Totem. |
| Anvil | 140 | Places an anvil, and provides all of the benefits of a Sharpening Wheel. |
| Master Forge | 300 | Places a Master Forge usable for recipes that require it, and provides all of the benefits of a Sharpening Wheel. |
In depth
What changed in Forever
Gear for yourself while you level. wowtbc.gg sums up the shift: professions now aim to give you crafted upgrades often as you level. Blacksmithing gets new sets for each role:
- Chain, skill 45–125: belts, gloves, boots, helms, shirts and leggings named Acolyte's, Crusader's, Guard's, Protector's and Veteran's.
- Plate, skill 175–250: gauntlets, pauldrons, wristguards, sabatons and waistguards named Justicar's, Officer's, Prefect's, Sentinel's and Warder's.
- Skill 300: an Enriched Thorium Breastplate, Helm and Leggings, and the Legionite Glaive.
All of these plans are sold for Merchant's Favor at your faction's trade camp (Wowhead).
ForeverDB's gear data shows which role each name serves. It identifies Acolyte's pieces for Holy Paladins and Protector's for Protection Paladins; these are candidate upgrades for the reported bracket, not a verified launch best-in-slot list. Guard's suit both Protection specs, and Veteran's suit Arms, Fury and Retribution. Its list of best-in-slot crafted items at level 30 and below is long, from Veteran's Silvered Chain Leggings (skill 125) to Officer's Belt (150). Icy Veins adds that some of this gear binds on pickup, such as Sentinel's Sabatons, so only a Blacksmith can wear it.
Other changes:
- Rough Copper Vest is now a green item.
- New blue Gemmed and Glowing Copper Boots come from plans at skill 35.
- Green Skyforged mail for levels 5 to 7 is taught by plans at skill 50 (ForeverDB).
- Blizzard's 1 October notes added Blacksmithing recipes as random dungeon drops.
Stations come from camps. The Anvil blueprint drops from Gilnid in the Deadmines. wow-professions.com says the Master Forge is needed for many Blacksmithing recipes, and that it found such stations only at camps, never out in the world. Where the Master Forge blueprint drops isn't known yet.
Skill ranges moved. wow-professions.com warns against following a Classic guide past 225: many recipes there turn grey about 25 points earlier in Forever.
Levelling, in brief
The two published routes take different paths, so compare them before you buy materials. Both stop around the beta's 225 ceiling.
| Skill | wow-professions.com | wowtbc.gg (priced from Auction House scans) |
|---|---|---|
| 1–75 | Sharpening and grinding stones, then Runed Copper Gauntlets | Sharpening and grinding stones, then Copper Chain Belts |
| 75–150 | Rough Bronze Leggings, Patterned Bronze Bracers, Heavy Grinding Stones, Bronze Shortswords, Bronze Warhammers | Runed Copper Bracers and Belts, Iron Buckles, Bronze Shortswords |
| 150–225 | Green Iron Bracers, Golden Scale Bracers, Mithril Plate Pants (or steel armour if mithril is dear), Heavy Mithril Breastplate | Green Iron Bracers, Solid Sharpening Stones, Truesilver Rods, Golden Scale Bracers (to about 190) |
| 225–300 | Not yet tested | Not covered |
wow-professions.com warns that buying every bar from the Auction House costs a lot, which is why it recommends Mining. Its Expert trainers are Saru Steelfury (Orgrimmar) and Bengus Deepforge (Ironforge). Artisan, which needs skill 200 and level 35, comes from Brikk Keencraft in Booty Bay for both factions.
What's worth making
- Your own gear: most guides value Blacksmithing for this. ForeverDB's best professions tool picks Blacksmithing and Mining for both Warriors and Paladins, scoring heavily for crafted gear that binds on pickup.
- Selling: guides say little. Icy Veins mentions selling your work on the Auction House. Blacksmiths also make the rods every Enchanter needs (Icy Veins) and weapon stones that help any melee class (ForeverDB).
- Title: at 300 you can buy a Blacksmithing Certification and the title "the Blacksmith" for 1,000 Merchant's Favor (Wowhead).
Open questions
- Whether Armorsmithing and Weaponsmithing work in Forever as they did in Classic.
- Where the Master Forge blueprint drops, and the real 225–300 route.
Trainers and recipes
Ranks: Apprentice to 75 · Journeyman to 150 · Expert to 225 · Artisan to 300.
Trainers
| Trainer | Faction | Where | Trains to |
|---|---|---|---|
| Angus Hammerhand | Both | Tirisfal Glades (21, 46) Seen in Forever | |
| Dwukk Journeyman Blacksmith | Horde | Durotar (52, 41) Seen in Forever | 75 |
| Ug'thok Journeyman Blacksmith | Horde | Orgrimmar (81, 23) Seen in Forever | 75 |
| Guillaume Sorouy Journeyman Blacksmith | Horde | Silverpine Forest (43, 41) Seen in Forever | 75 |
| Thrag Stonehoof Journeyman Blacksmith | Horde | Thunder Bluff (39, 56) Seen in Forever | 75 |
| Basil Frye Journeyman Blacksmith | Horde | Undercity (60, 29) Seen in Forever | 75 |
| Snarl Expert Blacksmith | Horde | Orgrimmar (80, 23) Seen in Forever | 150 |
| James Van Brunt Expert Blacksmith | Horde | Undercity (61, 30) Seen in Forever | 150 |
| Tognus Flintfire Journeyman Blacksmith | Alliance | Dun Morogh (45, 52) Seen in Forever | 75 |
| Smith Argus Journeyman Blacksmith | Alliance | Elwynn Forest (42, 66) Seen in Forever | 75 |
| Dane Lindgren Journeyman Blacksmith | Alliance | Stormwind City (64, 37) Seen in Forever | 75 |
| Therum Deepforge Expert Blacksmith | Alliance | Stormwind City (64, 37) Seen in Forever | 150 |
| Borgus Steelhand Weapon Crafter | Alliance | Stormwind City (59, 34) Seen in Forever | 260 |
| Traugh Expert Blacksmith | Horde | The Barrens (51, 29) Classic data | 150 |
Recipes you buy
| Recipe | Skill | Sold by |
|---|---|---|
| Acolyte's Chain Belt New in Forever | 45 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
| Crusader's Chain Belt New in Forever | 45 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
| Guard's Chain Belt New in Forever | 45 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
| Protector's Chain Belt New in Forever | 45 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
| Veteran's Chain Belt New in Forever | 45 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
| Azure Skyforged Chain New in Forever | 50 | Vayn Moongaze, Zephras Isle (64, 36) Seen in Forever 9s 50c |
| Azure Skyforged Wristguards New in Forever | 50 | Vayn Moongaze, Zephras Isle (64, 36) Seen in Forever 9s 50c |
| Cloudy Skyforged Chain New in Forever | 50 | Vayn Moongaze, Zephras Isle (64, 36) Seen in Forever 9s 50c |
| Cloudy Skyforged Wristguards New in Forever | 50 | Vayn Moongaze, Zephras Isle (64, 36) Seen in Forever 9s 50c |
| Azure Skyforged Gauntlets New in Forever | 55 | Vayn Moongaze, Zephras Isle (64, 36) Seen in Forever 11s 0c |
| Azure Skyforged Greaves New in Forever | 55 | Vayn Moongaze, Zephras Isle (64, 36) Seen in Forever 11s 0c |
| Cloudy Skyforged Gauntlets New in Forever | 55 | Vayn Moongaze, Zephras Isle (64, 36) Seen in Forever 11s 0c |
| Cloudy Skyforged Greaves New in Forever | 55 | Vayn Moongaze, Zephras Isle (64, 36) Seen in Forever 11s 0c |
| Azure Skyforged Chainmail New in Forever | 60 | Vayn Moongaze, Zephras Isle (64, 36) Seen in Forever 12s 50c |
| Azure Skyforged Legguards New in Forever | 60 | Vayn Moongaze, Zephras Isle (64, 36) Seen in Forever 12s 50c |
| Cloudy Skyforged Chainmail New in Forever | 60 | Vayn Moongaze, Zephras Isle (64, 36) Seen in Forever 12s 50c |
| Cloudy Skyforged Legguards New in Forever | 60 | Vayn Moongaze, Zephras Isle (64, 36) Seen in Forever 12s 50c |
| Acolyte's Gloves New in Forever | 80 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
| Crusader's Gloves New in Forever | 80 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
| Guard's Gloves New in Forever | 80 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
| Protector's Gloves New in Forever | 80 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
| Veteran's Gloves New in Forever | 80 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
| Acolyte's Boots New in Forever | 85 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
| Crusader's Boots New in Forever | 85 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
| Guard's Boots New in Forever | 85 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
| Protector's Boots New in Forever | 85 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
| Veteran's Boots New in Forever | 85 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
| Acolyte's Silvered Chain Helm New in Forever | 95 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
| Crusader's Silvered Chain Helm New in Forever | 95 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
| Guard's Silvered Chain Helm New in Forever | 95 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
| Protector's Silvered Chain Helm New in Forever | 95 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
| Veteran's Silvered Chain Helm New in Forever | 95 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
| Acolyte's Silvered Chain Shirt New in Forever | 110 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
| Cracked Blacksmith Hammer New in Forever | 110 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
| Crusader's Silvered Chain Shirt New in Forever | 110 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
| Guard's Silvered Chain Shirt New in Forever | 110 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
| Protector's Silvered Chain Shirt New in Forever | 110 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
| Veteran's Silvered Chain Shirt New in Forever | 110 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
| Acolyte's Silvered Chain Leggings New in Forever | 125 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
| Crusader's Silvered Chain Leggings New in Forever | 125 | Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor |
And 56 more on ForeverDB.
Data from ForeverDB.net, game build 1.60.1.70938. Places marked "Classic data" come from Classic and haven't been confirmed in Forever yet.
Sources
Read more
- Icy Veins: Blacksmithing Guide: what the profession makes, camp items, rank requirements
- ForeverDB: Blacksmithing: best-in-slot crafted items at level 30 and below, every recipe from the beta client
- ForeverDB: Professions, a beginner's guide: early recipes, armour rules by class
- ForeverDB: Best professions for every class: class picks and how they're scored
- wow-professions.com: Blacksmithing levelling guide: a tested route to 225, with a shopping list
- wowtbc.gg: Blacksmithing levelling guide: an alternative route priced from Auction House data
- Wowhead: Azeroth Commerce Authority reputation guide: the plans sold for Merchant's Favor
- wow-professions.com: Camping guide: Anvil and Master Forge materials and drops
Guides and tools
- ForeverDB: Blacksmithing Every recipe, trainers, where to learn
- Icy Veins: professions overview
- ForeverDB: best profession pairs
Sources: Icy Veins, ForeverDB, wow-professions.com, wowtbc.gg, Wowhead
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