TazdingoAn unofficial field guide and market tracker for World of Warcraft: Forever

Blacksmithing

Crafting Pre-launch Updated

506 recipes, 197 new in Forever (ForeverDB, game build 1.60.1.70938)

Cheatsheet

Pick it for
specific self-crafted mail and plate, mainly for Warriors and Paladins, rather than a promised gold income (ForeverDB).
Pairs with
Mining, for ore, bars and stone. wow-professions.com warns that buying every bar costs a lot; mining still costs time and gives up ore sales.
Levelling route
the routes differ; compare before buying. wow-professions.com: 1–75 stones, Runed Copper Gauntlets · 75–150 Rough Bronze Leggings, Patterned Bronze Bracers · 150–225 Green Iron Bracers, Golden Scale Bracers, Mithril Plate Pants · 225–300 untested (wow-professions.com). wowtbc.gg runs Copper Chain Belts and Runed Copper pieces.
Money makers
guides say little. Icy Veins mentions Auction House sales and the rods every Enchanter needs (Icy Veins); ForeverDB notes weapon stones help any melee class. The role-themed gear is mainly for yourself.
Camp items
Sharpening Wheel (20), a Strength buff that doesn't stack with Strength of Earth Totem · Anvil (140), blueprint from Gilnid in the Deadmines · Master Forge (300), needed for many recipes, blueprint source unknown.
Trainers and ranks
Expert from Saru Steelfury (Orgrimmar) or Bengus Deepforge (Ironforge) · Artisan at skill 200 and level 35 from Brikk Keencraft in Booty Bay, both factions (wow-professions.com). Role-themed plans sell for Merchant's Favor at your trade camp.
Watch out
past 225 many recipes turn grey about 25 points earlier than in Classic, so don't follow a Classic guide. Check binding and station before spending Favor: Sentinel's Sabatons bind on pickup. Armorsmithing and Weaponsmithing are unconfirmed in Forever.

Best estimated margins

RecipeSkillEstimated margin
Ornate Mithril Boots09g 72s 33c ForeverDB
Ornate Mithril Helm07g 75s 11c ForeverDB
Truesilver Gauntlets2206g 39s 73c ForeverDB
Ornate Mithril Breastplate05g 20s 56c ForeverDB
Shining Mithril Gauntlet2203g 0s 35c ForeverDB
Shining Mithril Helm2152g 76s 82c ForeverDB

Asking prices, before selling and training costs; not proof of demand. All Blacksmithing margins.

Camp items

ItemSkillEffect
Sharpening Wheel20Constructs a sharpening wheel that grants you and others sitting nearby 6 (below level 24), 11 (levels 24–37), 20 (levels 38–51) or 34 (level 52+) increased Strength, mutually exclusive with Strength of Earth Totem.
Anvil140Places an anvil, and provides all of the benefits of a Sharpening Wheel.
Master Forge300Places a Master Forge usable for recipes that require it, and provides all of the benefits of a Sharpening Wheel.

In depth

What changed in Forever

Gear for yourself while you level. wowtbc.gg sums up the shift: professions now aim to give you crafted upgrades often as you level. Blacksmithing gets new sets for each role:

  • Chain, skill 45–125: belts, gloves, boots, helms, shirts and leggings named Acolyte's, Crusader's, Guard's, Protector's and Veteran's.
  • Plate, skill 175–250: gauntlets, pauldrons, wristguards, sabatons and waistguards named Justicar's, Officer's, Prefect's, Sentinel's and Warder's.
  • Skill 300: an Enriched Thorium Breastplate, Helm and Leggings, and the Legionite Glaive.

All of these plans are sold for Merchant's Favor at your faction's trade camp (Wowhead).

ForeverDB's gear data shows which role each name serves. It identifies Acolyte's pieces for Holy Paladins and Protector's for Protection Paladins; these are candidate upgrades for the reported bracket, not a verified launch best-in-slot list. Guard's suit both Protection specs, and Veteran's suit Arms, Fury and Retribution. Its list of best-in-slot crafted items at level 30 and below is long, from Veteran's Silvered Chain Leggings (skill 125) to Officer's Belt (150). Icy Veins adds that some of this gear binds on pickup, such as Sentinel's Sabatons, so only a Blacksmith can wear it.

Other changes:

  • Rough Copper Vest is now a green item.
  • New blue Gemmed and Glowing Copper Boots come from plans at skill 35.
  • Green Skyforged mail for levels 5 to 7 is taught by plans at skill 50 (ForeverDB).
  • Blizzard's 1 October notes added Blacksmithing recipes as random dungeon drops.

Stations come from camps. The Anvil blueprint drops from Gilnid in the Deadmines. wow-professions.com says the Master Forge is needed for many Blacksmithing recipes, and that it found such stations only at camps, never out in the world. Where the Master Forge blueprint drops isn't known yet.

Skill ranges moved. wow-professions.com warns against following a Classic guide past 225: many recipes there turn grey about 25 points earlier in Forever.

Levelling, in brief

The two published routes take different paths, so compare them before you buy materials. Both stop around the beta's 225 ceiling.

Skillwow-professions.comwowtbc.gg (priced from Auction House scans)
1–75Sharpening and grinding stones, then Runed Copper GauntletsSharpening and grinding stones, then Copper Chain Belts
75–150Rough Bronze Leggings, Patterned Bronze Bracers, Heavy Grinding Stones, Bronze Shortswords, Bronze WarhammersRuned Copper Bracers and Belts, Iron Buckles, Bronze Shortswords
150–225Green Iron Bracers, Golden Scale Bracers, Mithril Plate Pants (or steel armour if mithril is dear), Heavy Mithril BreastplateGreen Iron Bracers, Solid Sharpening Stones, Truesilver Rods, Golden Scale Bracers (to about 190)
225–300Not yet testedNot covered

wow-professions.com warns that buying every bar from the Auction House costs a lot, which is why it recommends Mining. Its Expert trainers are Saru Steelfury (Orgrimmar) and Bengus Deepforge (Ironforge). Artisan, which needs skill 200 and level 35, comes from Brikk Keencraft in Booty Bay for both factions.

What's worth making

  • Your own gear: most guides value Blacksmithing for this. ForeverDB's best professions tool picks Blacksmithing and Mining for both Warriors and Paladins, scoring heavily for crafted gear that binds on pickup.
  • Selling: guides say little. Icy Veins mentions selling your work on the Auction House. Blacksmiths also make the rods every Enchanter needs (Icy Veins) and weapon stones that help any melee class (ForeverDB).
  • Title: at 300 you can buy a Blacksmithing Certification and the title "the Blacksmith" for 1,000 Merchant's Favor (Wowhead).

Open questions

  • Whether Armorsmithing and Weaponsmithing work in Forever as they did in Classic.
  • Where the Master Forge blueprint drops, and the real 225–300 route.

Trainers and recipes

Ranks: Apprentice to 75 · Journeyman to 150 · Expert to 225 · Artisan to 300.

Trainers

TrainerFactionWhereTrains to
Angus HammerhandBothTirisfal Glades (21, 46) Seen in Forever
Dwukk Journeyman BlacksmithHordeDurotar (52, 41) Seen in Forever75
Ug'thok Journeyman BlacksmithHordeOrgrimmar (81, 23) Seen in Forever75
Guillaume Sorouy Journeyman BlacksmithHordeSilverpine Forest (43, 41) Seen in Forever75
Thrag Stonehoof Journeyman BlacksmithHordeThunder Bluff (39, 56) Seen in Forever75
Basil Frye Journeyman BlacksmithHordeUndercity (60, 29) Seen in Forever75
Snarl Expert BlacksmithHordeOrgrimmar (80, 23) Seen in Forever150
James Van Brunt Expert BlacksmithHordeUndercity (61, 30) Seen in Forever150
Tognus Flintfire Journeyman BlacksmithAllianceDun Morogh (45, 52) Seen in Forever75
Smith Argus Journeyman BlacksmithAllianceElwynn Forest (42, 66) Seen in Forever75
Dane Lindgren Journeyman BlacksmithAllianceStormwind City (64, 37) Seen in Forever75
Therum Deepforge Expert BlacksmithAllianceStormwind City (64, 37) Seen in Forever150
Borgus Steelhand Weapon CrafterAllianceStormwind City (59, 34) Seen in Forever260
Traugh Expert BlacksmithHordeThe Barrens (51, 29) Classic data150

Recipes you buy

RecipeSkillSold by
Acolyte's Chain Belt New in Forever45Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor
Crusader's Chain Belt New in Forever45Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor
Guard's Chain Belt New in Forever45Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor
Protector's Chain Belt New in Forever45Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor
Veteran's Chain Belt New in Forever45Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor
Azure Skyforged Chain New in Forever50Vayn Moongaze, Zephras Isle (64, 36) Seen in Forever 9s 50c
Azure Skyforged Wristguards New in Forever50Vayn Moongaze, Zephras Isle (64, 36) Seen in Forever 9s 50c
Cloudy Skyforged Chain New in Forever50Vayn Moongaze, Zephras Isle (64, 36) Seen in Forever 9s 50c
Cloudy Skyforged Wristguards New in Forever50Vayn Moongaze, Zephras Isle (64, 36) Seen in Forever 9s 50c
Azure Skyforged Gauntlets New in Forever55Vayn Moongaze, Zephras Isle (64, 36) Seen in Forever 11s 0c
Azure Skyforged Greaves New in Forever55Vayn Moongaze, Zephras Isle (64, 36) Seen in Forever 11s 0c
Cloudy Skyforged Gauntlets New in Forever55Vayn Moongaze, Zephras Isle (64, 36) Seen in Forever 11s 0c
Cloudy Skyforged Greaves New in Forever55Vayn Moongaze, Zephras Isle (64, 36) Seen in Forever 11s 0c
Azure Skyforged Chainmail New in Forever60Vayn Moongaze, Zephras Isle (64, 36) Seen in Forever 12s 50c
Azure Skyforged Legguards New in Forever60Vayn Moongaze, Zephras Isle (64, 36) Seen in Forever 12s 50c
Cloudy Skyforged Chainmail New in Forever60Vayn Moongaze, Zephras Isle (64, 36) Seen in Forever 12s 50c
Cloudy Skyforged Legguards New in Forever60Vayn Moongaze, Zephras Isle (64, 36) Seen in Forever 12s 50c
Acolyte's Gloves New in Forever80Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor
Crusader's Gloves New in Forever80Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor
Guard's Gloves New in Forever80Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor
Protector's Gloves New in Forever80Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor
Veteran's Gloves New in Forever80Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor
Acolyte's Boots New in Forever85Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor
Crusader's Boots New in Forever85Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor
Guard's Boots New in Forever85Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor
Protector's Boots New in Forever85Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor
Veteran's Boots New in Forever85Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor
Acolyte's Silvered Chain Helm New in Forever95Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor
Crusader's Silvered Chain Helm New in Forever95Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor
Guard's Silvered Chain Helm New in Forever95Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor
Protector's Silvered Chain Helm New in Forever95Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor
Veteran's Silvered Chain Helm New in Forever95Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor
Acolyte's Silvered Chain Shirt New in Forever110Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor
Cracked Blacksmith Hammer New in Forever110Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor
Crusader's Silvered Chain Shirt New in Forever110Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor
Guard's Silvered Chain Shirt New in Forever110Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor
Protector's Silvered Chain Shirt New in Forever110Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor
Veteran's Silvered Chain Shirt New in Forever110Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor
Acolyte's Silvered Chain Leggings New in Forever125Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor
Crusader's Silvered Chain Leggings New in Forever125Stondry Darkhammer, Redridge Mountains (10, 75) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor; Gor'mak, The Barrens (50, 30) Seen in Forever 30 Merchant's Favor

And 56 more on ForeverDB.

Data from ForeverDB.net, game build 1.60.1.70938. Places marked "Classic data" come from Classic and haven't been confirmed in Forever yet.

Sources

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Guides and tools

Sources: Icy Veins, ForeverDB, wow-professions.com, wowtbc.gg, Wowhead

No field findings recorded yet: our own tested discoveries appear in their own tab, marked with how well they're tested.

Changes to this page

  1. 5 days before launch Classes and professions: cheatsheets replace At a glance
  2. 8 days before launch Guide recommendations: resolve stale mechanics and explain practical trade-offs
  3. 8 days before launch Rebrand as Tazdingo and add classified Forever news with visitor refresh
  4. 8 days before launch v3: profession and Druid pages, ledger: links, source records, handover